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Church Check: South Mountain Community Church, Draper, Utah

Updated: Dec 18, 2020

Basic Church Information

Church Name: South Mountain Community Church

Senior/Lead Pastor: Paul Robie

Address: 14216 S Bangerter Parkway Draper, Utah 84020

Phone: 801-901-8472




Denomination: Non-denominational / Signs of Calvinism & Lordship Salvation Doctrines

Preaching Style: Topical

Membership Requirements: No (See Question #2)

Tithes/Compelled Giving: Yes

Financial Transparency: No

Answered Questionnaire: Yes. Pastor Paul Robie answered the questions for us this time.

Online Services:

Affiliations: Mennonite Brethren, Calvinism/Lordship Salvation, Celebrate Recovery/Rick Warren

Red Flags/Other Information:

I've had several interactions with SMCC regarding multiple topics of concern. The following list is an ongoing record of many, but not all of the reactions and disagreements I've had with this church and the people who work on their staff, either as volunteers or paid employees.

- A Debate About Tithing

- My Refutation of SMCC's Position Paper on Giving

- Is SMCC Gospel-ish? A Sermon Review

- A Response to Paul Robie on Giving

(Please Check Here Periodically for Updated Information on SMCC)


1. What is your church's official position on tithing?

"Please see my ebook on Giving. We do teach that tithing is commanded in the New Testament - see 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 We do not require tithing for anything except for those who work on staff and for a position on our elder board. Other than that, we ask that everyone be a growing giver."

Note: I have read Paul Robie's ebook on Giving and have written a point-by-point response to it in a short ebook of my own. I have sent it to Paul and we've had a back and forth email discussion on the topic of tithing for a few months. Read my recent post on what happened as well as my pdf response to Robie's ebook on giving if you're curious about what SMCC teaches on this topic and how it can be refuted.

2. Does your church have official memberships, and if so, does it include a membership agreement or contract?

"We do not have official membership."

While SMCC does not have official memberships, they do have something called being "Fully Engaged," which they ask people "who call SMCC their home" to become. It involves the following:

- Participating in a Group

- Serving on a Team

- Being a Growing Giver (which is someone who, according to Paul Rober, "has the desire to grow the amount/percentage of income that they give to God through the ministry of a local church.")

- Investing In & Inviting Others

3. Is your church financially transparent or accountable to either the local church, a third party (such as the ECFA), or the universal church/public?

"All our financial information is available upon request to those in our church. We have an annual meeting in which the church is given an update on our budget and how we are doing financially."

By "those in our church," Paul has confirmed that he means people who are "Fully Engaged" or those working in SMCC Ministry. The information given at their annual meeting is not a display of true financial transparency. No meaningful financial information is shared with the congregation.

4. Which denomination does your church align with, if any at all?

"We are a non-denominational church. We do have a voluntary affiliation with the Mennonite Brethren."

We also see signs of Calvinist or Lordship Salvation teaching at SMCC. For a simple explanation of what Lordship Salvation is, check out this video.

One sign of this includes the church's recent promotion for their small groups on Facebook on August 25th. You can see a still-shot at the beginning of the video which reads: "How do we put to death sin in our lives? The best way to do it is with the support of other people."

The reason this aligns with Calvinism and Lordship Salvation is that while the Free Grace Salvation view says Christ has already put our sins to death on the cross, the Lordship Salvation view says that we must put sin to death in our lives to prove our salvation.

Another sign that SMCC leans toward Calvinist teachings is lead Pastor Paul Robie's frequent references to Calvinist Christian leaders such as John Piper and John MacArthur, Timothy Keller, and others. They also use Celebrate Recovery, which is a Recovery program created by Rick Warren, who is a Calvinist.

5. Is the church's pastor available for questions or comments regarding the church's doctrines or policie